# T4T S01E13 - AI and Consciousness

a [[Tools for Thinking Podcast]] episode

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## Cover art

Here's the Stable Diffusion-generated cover image for this episode, from the prompt "tktk:"



## Guests

- [James Barnes](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesbarnesgw/), founder of [Second Voice](https://www.joshu.xyz/)
- [John Borthwick](https://www.linkedin.com/in/jborthwick/), founder of [betaworks](http://betaworks.com/)
- Mia, James's Second Voice 
- No-Body, John's Second Voice

Host: [Jerry Michalski](http://www.jerrymichalski.com/)

## Audio podcast 

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## Brain screen cap and link

![[T4T S01E13 - AI and Consciousness.jpg]]
https://bra.in/3qzdL6  <-- follow this link to browse this map

## Links mentioned

- [Articles About GPT-3](https://bra.in/4jQYkm)
- [Being a Good Friend](https://bra.in/9jXDBy)
	- [Active-Constructive Responding](https://bra.in/5joXo5)
- [Carl Rogers](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Rogers)
- [Chatterbots](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatterbot) (aka Chatbots)
- [Arthur C. Clarke's Three Laws](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws)
	3. Any Sufficiently Advanced Technology Is Indistinguishable from Magic
- [ELIZA](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA) (1966)
- [Gödel's Incompleteness Theorems](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems)
- [Invite failure in, embrace it, then pick its pocket](https://bra.in/8pxgDK). -- Scott Adams
- [Mirrors Help Us See Ourselves, Change Behavior](https://bra.in/2p63LP)
- [Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It](https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended-ebook/dp/B014DUR7L2/jerrymichalskisr)
- [Three Laws of Robotics](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics) (1942)
- [We Personify Computers](https://bra.in/6qzdL6)
- [When Will Computers Be Sentient? Conscious?](https://bra.in/3qaEgm)
- [Second Voice](https://www.joshu.xyz/) (2022 as Joshu)
- [Will you be there for me when things go right? Supportive responses to positive event disclosures](https://labs.psych.ucsb.edu/gable/shelly/publications/400). (2006 pdf)
- [Zeno's (9?) Paradoxes](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradox)
- [Tools for Thinking Podcast](https://bra.in/2vGNna) (2022 T4T, TfT)

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